543. The Symmetry Or Asymmetry Of Men's Basic Attitude Determines Their Behavior Towards Women
In my reply to a comment on entry 540, I explained, how I can only prevent to be harmed and abused in a relationship by the reciprocal conscious choice of a partner, who realistically can expect to get his needs met without hurting or bullying me.
In my reply to a comment on entry 540, I explained, how I can only prevent to be harmed and abused in a relationship by the reciprocal conscious choice of a partner, who realistically can expect to get his needs met without hurting or bullying me.
I have outlined extensively in this blog, how I need to be treated and what treatment and behaviors are not acceptable. This serves the purpose of enabling any interested man to check reciprocal suitability without hurting.
This leads on to the problem of predicting the probability of being hurt as early as possible during any contact. It is futile and even ridiculous to ask any man the direct question, if he commodifies and abuses women. No man ever would reply in the affirmative. Some men are not even aware of their own hidden real attitude. What they believe to be justifiable behavior is experienced as abuse by women.
This leads on to the problem of predicting the probability of being hurt as early as possible during any contact. It is futile and even ridiculous to ask any man the direct question, if he commodifies and abuses women. No man ever would reply in the affirmative. Some men are not even aware of their own hidden real attitude. What they believe to be justifiable behavior is experienced as abuse by women.
A man's real basic attitude towards women is more reliably inferred from his behavior. Basic attitudes are usually congruent with the strength and predominance of instinctive needs and urges. These attitudes are invisible or hidden, but the behavior is an observable expression of the attitudes.
Men's basic attitudes towards women are either symmetrical or asymmetrical.
A symmetrical attitude can be expected, when a man's innate needs are balanced, when his conscious non-physical needs for intellectual and emotional intimacy, activities and a safe haven shared with a bonded companion are at least as strong as his physical instinctive needs for homeostasis.
Men's basic attitudes towards women are either symmetrical or asymmetrical.
A symmetrical attitude can be expected, when a man's innate needs are balanced, when his conscious non-physical needs for intellectual and emotional intimacy, activities and a safe haven shared with a bonded companion are at least as strong as his physical instinctive needs for homeostasis.
Experiencing only or predominantly those instinctive needs leads to the asymmetry of the basic attitude.
1. Asymmetrical basic attitude.
Commodification, objectification and peripherisation are asymmetrical varieties of the basic attitude, they all determine men to hurt and abuse women.
These attitudes are expressed by the secondary attitude of implicit or explicit claims of entitlement, which are inappropriate, because they aim at acquiring onesided benefits only for these men. Feeling entitled to benefits not otherwise available they also feel entitled to hurting and harming behaviors as the method to acquire the benefits.
1.1. In the case of the entitlement delusion, abusers are oblivious, that what they believe to be their entitlement, is considered and perceived as outrageous and preposterous by others. Therefore it does not even occur to them to hide their entitlement delusion, to the contrary they are surprised, when the women disagree. They get angry and aggressive bullies and they consider any woman as defective and flawed, who refuses to let them have, what they feel entitled to get. They are the least hazard to women by being easily recognizable.
1.2. The entitlement is combined with the awareness, that others disagree. This makes them a hazard, because they use manipulations, tricks and pretense to get, what they feel entitled to but which is otherwise not available.
1. Asymmetrical basic attitude.
Commodification, objectification and peripherisation are asymmetrical varieties of the basic attitude, they all determine men to hurt and abuse women.
These attitudes are expressed by the secondary attitude of implicit or explicit claims of entitlement, which are inappropriate, because they aim at acquiring onesided benefits only for these men. Feeling entitled to benefits not otherwise available they also feel entitled to hurting and harming behaviors as the method to acquire the benefits.
1.1. In the case of the entitlement delusion, abusers are oblivious, that what they believe to be their entitlement, is considered and perceived as outrageous and preposterous by others. Therefore it does not even occur to them to hide their entitlement delusion, to the contrary they are surprised, when the women disagree. They get angry and aggressive bullies and they consider any woman as defective and flawed, who refuses to let them have, what they feel entitled to get. They are the least hazard to women by being easily recognizable.
1.2. The entitlement is combined with the awareness, that others disagree. This makes them a hazard, because they use manipulations, tricks and pretense to get, what they feel entitled to but which is otherwise not available.
1.3. Sometimes men are not aware, that their behavior expresses entitlement. Their fallacy of believing to be in agreement with a woman's symmetrical expectations makes them also a hazard. More about this follows below.
2. Symmetrical basic attitude.
Egalitarianism and bonded monogamy are varieties of a symmetrical basic attitude, which determines a man to have more reasons to protect a woman against being hurt and harmed than to inflict it upon them.
These basic attitudes are expressed by secondary attitudes, as are for example responsibility, consideration, commitment as including obligations, caring, reliability, predictability, trustworthiness. People often declare these attitudes explicitly as forming their value system, which they identify with. But even without being consciously chosen, these secondary attitude determine specific behaviors.
Unfortunately, things are more complicated. The behavior is usually a fairly good indication of and congruent with the real basic attitude.
But any verbal declaration of secondary attitudes cannot be relied upon, because they are influenced considerably by social, cultural and educational influences. Someone's mere claim to be responsible does not imply, that he really knows, what responsibility means and what behavior expresses responsibility.
As a consequence, when a man agrees with or even offers proactively to behave according to specific secondary attitudes, this is far from a guarantee for a woman to really be treated according to her expectations.
In the case, that the man is not purposefully manipulating her, this is caused by the man using words without comprehending their full and correct meaning, which eludes him due to his lacking the corresponding basic attitude. The man agrees with something, because he knows it to be expected from him or as the condition for being accepted. But he agrees to give, what he has misunderstood as the meaning of the word, not what the woman expects by using the same word.
Commitment is an example.
2. Symmetrical basic attitude.
Egalitarianism and bonded monogamy are varieties of a symmetrical basic attitude, which determines a man to have more reasons to protect a woman against being hurt and harmed than to inflict it upon them.
These basic attitudes are expressed by secondary attitudes, as are for example responsibility, consideration, commitment as including obligations, caring, reliability, predictability, trustworthiness. People often declare these attitudes explicitly as forming their value system, which they identify with. But even without being consciously chosen, these secondary attitude determine specific behaviors.
Unfortunately, things are more complicated. The behavior is usually a fairly good indication of and congruent with the real basic attitude.
But any verbal declaration of secondary attitudes cannot be relied upon, because they are influenced considerably by social, cultural and educational influences. Someone's mere claim to be responsible does not imply, that he really knows, what responsibility means and what behavior expresses responsibility.
As a consequence, when a man agrees with or even offers proactively to behave according to specific secondary attitudes, this is far from a guarantee for a woman to really be treated according to her expectations.
In the case, that the man is not purposefully manipulating her, this is caused by the man using words without comprehending their full and correct meaning, which eludes him due to his lacking the corresponding basic attitude. The man agrees with something, because he knows it to be expected from him or as the condition for being accepted. But he agrees to give, what he has misunderstood as the meaning of the word, not what the woman expects by using the same word.
Commitment is an example.
Entitlement and feeling obligations are mutually exclusive. When someone feels entitled to a benefit, this means he feels no obligation to give something back. Whenever someone already considers something as his property or his due, he sees no logical reason to earn or acquire it by a deal.
Accepting an obligation is the contrary, it is the recognition of another person's entitlement to get benefits in return for what is given as part of a deal.
1. A man with an asymmetrical basic attitude misunderstands commitment as a method of establishing entitlement by ascertaining his control over a woman. This serves to get benefits from the woman at his convenience.
2. A man with a symmetrical basic attitude agrees on a deal concerning the benefits of the relationship for the woman as equally valid as his own. He accepts commitment as including the obligation to fulfill his part of the deal in return for the benefits he gets.
Both use the same word, commitment, but they do not mean the same. When a man gets subjectively committed by feeling entitled and a woman subjectively gets committed with the expectations of a man being bound by obligations towards her, this will lead to serious suffering for the woman.
The symmetry or asymmetry of the basic attitude depends on fairly stable innate traits as are the instinctive and the intellectual needs. As long as men succeed to enforce getting benefits from commodification, they have no logical reason to give up their privileges. Therefore it is rather improbably that a man's asymmetrical attitude changes into a symmetrical one.
Accepting an obligation is the contrary, it is the recognition of another person's entitlement to get benefits in return for what is given as part of a deal.
1. A man with an asymmetrical basic attitude misunderstands commitment as a method of establishing entitlement by ascertaining his control over a woman. This serves to get benefits from the woman at his convenience.
2. A man with a symmetrical basic attitude agrees on a deal concerning the benefits of the relationship for the woman as equally valid as his own. He accepts commitment as including the obligation to fulfill his part of the deal in return for the benefits he gets.
Both use the same word, commitment, but they do not mean the same. When a man gets subjectively committed by feeling entitled and a woman subjectively gets committed with the expectations of a man being bound by obligations towards her, this will lead to serious suffering for the woman.
The symmetry or asymmetry of the basic attitude depends on fairly stable innate traits as are the instinctive and the intellectual needs. As long as men succeed to enforce getting benefits from commodification, they have no logical reason to give up their privileges. Therefore it is rather improbably that a man's asymmetrical attitude changes into a symmetrical one.
Appropriate treatment of a woman comes only natural, when it is grounded in a man's symmetrical basic attitude, while a man with an asymmetrical attitude is innately oblivious of how to treat a woman without hurting her.
Such a man has a serious problem even when he is so much attracted to a specific woman, that this motivates him to attempt to treat her how she wants to be treated as the price for being accepted.
He has not clue, how to behave, unless he gets a recipe for every situation. He experiences, that every behavior, which is logical for him under the premise of his entitlement, fails and is rejected by someone, who expects him to fulfill obligations.
Whenever he is ignorant of the suitable recipe, he is prone to relapse to the inappropriate hurting behavior derived from his alleged entitlement.
This causes a very fragile situation: The woman is not respected as an equal, she is only a commodity temporarily treated as if she were appreciated and respected.
This can only last, as long as this gives him subjectively more benefits then bullying her to usurp his alleged entitlement to benefits.
This causes a very fragile situation: The woman is not respected as an equal, she is only a commodity temporarily treated as if she were appreciated and respected.
This can only last, as long as this gives him subjectively more benefits then bullying her to usurp his alleged entitlement to benefits.
She cannot be happy, because happiness requires to be perceived as an equal partner in a symmetrical relationship. But due to his relapses she is fully aware of the indignation and degradation of not really being appreciated and respected, even though his attempts create the intermittent appearance as if.
A woman's happiness requires a man's symmetrical basic attitude.
A woman's happiness requires a man's symmetrical basic attitude.
